Canada responds to historic Olympic hockey game loss to US:
I’ll pay for health care rather than wait in line 6 months for a flu shot.🙂 Oh Canada. *Sigh*
Got mine at the office along with the swine shot.
Feel bad for people who can’t see past the obvious American healthcare propaganda
Kenny, are you retarded? As an American who’s been to Canada, I have to say you sound like it. Our health care system is the worst. Long lines, tons of red tape, poor coverage– and that’s if you HAVE “good” health care.
I wait longer to see doctors here in the US than in other countries. Primarily because we don’t have enough primary care doctors (because they’re relatively underpaid in our system) and because our specialists are spending so much of their time treating emergency cases for uninsured patients.
Buddy in countries with socialized health care you are more likely to die of many types of cancer than in the US that should say something about the level of care you’ll get in other countries.
another corporate propaganda brainwashed nimrod.
do you research. overwhelming evidence is out there. start googling something other than britney spears.
6 months? They came to my office… gave us the shots there. No waiting.
Same here, in the US even! *shocking*
Keep on praying, until you get sick. Then all of a sudden somebody believes in science.
You can keep mocking prayer until your terminal then you should accept it…
prayer is gay
hockey is gay
That’s what you get for using bash. Use zsh: less prayer, more work done.
It’s always amusing how it’s the people NOT from Canada that bitch about Canada’s healthcare. Yet, when it’s a Canadian you are talking to, they admit that their system is not perfect…but the U.S. system scares the hell out of them. Brit’s, for the most part, love their system also. Can you seriously say with a straight face that you love the system in the U.S.? Like? Even a little? Exactly…
Kind of like Religion and Science… You can believe what people tell you second hand, or research yourself, gather evidence and make your own informed decision. I highly recommend it, and just maybe, if you’re lucky, you may also actually learn something..
When dealing with Americans (of which I am one) please realize that the country is schizophrenic. 1/2 the population is smart and good, while 1/2 are blithering idiots. I, of course, and one of the smart ones and agree with you. 🙂
I am an American also…and I disgree with you wholeheartedly. Well over half of the people here are blithering idiots. I can back that up… look at the popularity of “reality television”… I rest my case.
If you were half as smart and good as you think you are, you wouldn’t misrepresent schizophrenia as multiple personality disorder… Have a little respect and do a little research before you go around posting that you’re the right and true genius king of the world.
I completely agree. If you look at the polls 43 percent of Americans are in favor of passage and 43 percent opposed, yet 76 percent think that amending our current policy is “extremely” or “very important”, and that’s including both Republicans and Democrats. Personally, I think it’s partially the conservative media, like Fox, scaring people into thinking universal health care is “bad”. While I also agree that the general public is at fault for not seeking information. Unfortunately for those American’s who really need health insurance it seems like nothing will get done. Nonetheless I think that this was a hilarious witty picture/response.
Actually, I have a cousin from Calgary, and my grandfather is from Lincolnshire…both of them live in the U.S. now because they couldn’t find adequate health care in their own countries. I can’t say with a straight face that I love the U.S. health care system, but…it sure beats Canada’s and England’s! I also have a cousin in Wales who waited 4 years for a surgery on his hand…when they finally operated, it was on the wrong hand! Fantastic! Thanks but no thanks, government-run health care. I am fully capable of risking my own life without your help…
Smells like (redacted) to me. If true, I’d chalk it up as an outlier. Statistics are pretty clear: we have as much malpractice in our country as anyone else. It’s the anti-government zealots who think that unregulated markets hold all the answers who have singlehandedly destroyed American prosperity (not being content with seeing Latin America become 3rd World by cramming this laissez faire nonsense down their throats, you guys have forced the same poison down our throats as well, predictably resulting in low GDP (interesting fact: Reagan’s economic growth was worse than every Democratic president since the New Deal except Carter, and it was barely better than that; this was despite creating some $4 trillion in new debt; Bush’s was worse than every Democratic president since the New Deal including Carter, and he created some $6 T in new debt; under Reagan/Bush/Bush, we actually saw income for the bottom half GO DOWN. Nice job smart guys).
I guess we in Belgium have one of the highest taxes in the world, but one of the best social and healthcare systems as well, of course it’s not ideal, that would be the healtcare system of Uthopia. But without any additional inscurance you have a mighty big safetynet. I’m in favor!!
I live in Illinois, have no health insurance, yet have access to wonderful health care. To bad the rest of the country isn’t like this, though I don’t support the way our stupid politicians are handling this, on both sides of the aisle. On the other hand, I think that sign is freakin’ hillarious! Absolutely awesome🙂
How was this game historic? It wasn’t even a gold medal match.
It was the first time the US beat Canada in Olympic hockey since 1960.
How many times have they played each other in the Olympics since 1960?
Canada beats Russia in Olympic hockey for the first time since 1960. Historic!
“At least we have health care.” That’s what you came up with?!!
BTW I do know people in Canada and they think the HC sucks!
If they think the healthcare sucks, they probably mean in comparison to England or France or the Netherlands. I’m sure they think the U.S. system sucks even more. Not really a valid argument for anything.
P.S. you sound kind of stupid, sue.
I have healthcare TOO! In fact, my President didn’t go to canada to get his surgery done. I wonder which counter named CANADA had that happen?
That has absolutely nothing to do with universal health care you bag of tools. You think the Canadian Premiere couldn’t get a surgery in Canada? Of course he could! No, it’s just that we happen to have a genius in heart surgery in America. Okay, true, doctor incentive… but you look at the doctors, and they’re doing fine. The universal taxes hit everyone, so comparatively they’re still making ridiculous bank. No effect.
We just happen to have the best guy in the field. He could have been born in Canada, or in France or Iraq or China or the freaking outback and it wouldn’t have mattered. When you have a sick leader, you send them to the best doctor you can, regardless of nationality, unless political bullcrap worse than this effects travel plans.
Also, try and spell “country” right. Capitalize “Canada” too while you’re at it.
If you think Canada has a President, then the doctors probably can’t help you.
Brittish healthcare for the most part is exellent. people moan about it but thats what people do and alot of it is down to media fear tactics. America needs to sort it’s shit out, who is going to fight your wars if all the poor are dead?
Canadian health care is great. 6 months to get a flu shot? Who makes this Sh*t up? Try three minutes, and it didn’t cost a cent. And that 3 day wait for my (non emerg) gallbladder surgery? I can handle that, especially if it means I don’t have to pay a cent.
“and it didn’t cost a cent.”
Having lived in Michigan and watching all the Canadians come across the border to get surgeries they couldn’t wait for done… I’ve got a dim view of Socialized health care.
And, biggest of all, “free”? Really? So the Canadian government is a business that makes money and donates health care to the masses… or is it really that your taxes pay for the health care?
How much do you pay in taxes.. how much of that goes to health care costs? Figure that out, then talk to me about “free” health care, because I’m willing to bet you pay more than I do (given you actually hold a worthwhile job).
Seriously? Anyone who thinks the government wants to run health care because they give a shit and want to save lives is completely diluted. This is all about power and control. They can dictate, through “coverage” where we live, where we work, what we can and cant eat, What kind of car we can drive, who we fuck, how many kids we can have etc etc. I could go on and on and on. Maybe the diaper wearing fucks who rely on government for every-damn-thing will learn this when their denied care because of their lifestyle choices (which is guaranteed to happen). Hate the American system or love it, we are not “communal”. This country is “every man for himself” and thats the way it was meant to be. You brits and canadians can keep sucking the government tittie. have fun with that. In america, if you suck at life and cant get a job and cant pay for health care. Fuck you, die I say. Next their going to use bogus global warming horseshit to control energy policy. Hmmmm? They can dictate our health and how we consume energy. Thats pretty much OUR ENTIRE FUCKING LIVES!!! Our founders would never have stood for this. Were shitting on every dead American who fought and died to keep this country a free nation based upon INDIVIDUAL achievements and liberties. America is NOT a goddamn daycare for lazy worthless people. Let them die. What do they contribute? Nothing….
wow!…… there are so many things wrong with what you just said, My brain actually hurts!
“Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now.”
“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”
“A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government.”
“The man who reads nothing at all is better than educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.”
“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”
Im not quite as eloquent as jefferson but the shit is happening right in front of our eyes!
What the hell is wrong with people. Were probably that last generation of the true American republic. People nowadays “jus’ want ‘dem benefits from the man . da gov’ment gun take care o me!!”
thats not the america that i know. They pulled the veil over our eyes and no one even cares. Theyve turnede us all into uneducated mindless consumers and weve all sat and took our medicine for years and years. Now were fucked if something does REALLY change. Heres a good last one:
“What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?”
This is ALL about control people. If you cant see that i truly feel bad for you.
everyone reading this:
“your an unbelievable retard”
If you cant see that i truly feel bad for you.
Wow… you are such a bad writer, speller, and ignorant to boot. I’m an American, and you embarrass me. Don’t you realize, the lazy poor you speak of are already, now, as we speak, getting a free ride, living in government housing, getting free medical care, collecting welfare checks, living on food stamps, and sending their offspring to free public schools which give them free breakfast and lunch? You think we are not already “socialist” and “ruined?” Wake. Up.
The greatest period of American history is generally thought of as the period following the New Deal. Prior to that, we had something close to the laissez faire society you describe. And yet despite having the greatest natural resources at the time, we had a massive crime rate (murder rates were exponentially higher than now), low expected life rates, and generally had economic crises every 5-10 years, culminating in the Great Depression.
Everything you have known in your life, all of the American prosperity, etc., has come about post-New Deal, when a compromise was fashioned between government and enterprise (right of socialism, left of libertarianism). So don’t start making shit up about the “America you know” because the America you know, all the wealth we enjoy, all the stability and peace we’ve had, is the result of policies and governments that ignorant sheep like you, who watch too much Fox News and don’t read enough history books, would call “socialist”.
Of course, this is certainly all way over your head, since you’re a fucking retard. So just die already.
Canada DOES have health care! In fact, it’s so good, the Premier of Newfoundland and Labrador had to go to Miami for heart surgery…inspiring the utmost confidence in his country’s health care system.
So, Canada, how’s that health care workin’ for you, eh?
to save pfhortipfhy from repeating himself! that had F**k all to do with Canadian health care. The American surgeon was the best in the world im sure President Obama would see a Canadian surgeon if he was the best in his field. Think before you make yourself look like a f**kmallet!!
haha it’s so true. xD
‘My heart, my choice,’ Williams says, defending decision for U.S. heart surgery
By Tara Brautigam (CP) – 1 day ago
An unapologetic Danny Williams says he was aware his trip to the United States for heart surgery earlier this month would spark outcry, but he concluded his personal health trumped any public fallout over the controversial decision.
In an interview with The Canadian Press, Williams said he went to Miami to have a “minimally invasive” surgery for an ailment first detected nearly a year ago, based on the advice of his doctors.
“This was my heart, my choice and my health,” Williams said late Monday from his condominium in Sarasota, Fla.
“I did not sign away my right to get the best possible health care for myself when I entered politics.”
The 60-year-old Williams said doctors detected a heart murmur last spring and told him that one of his heart valves wasn’t closing properly, creating a leakage.
He said he was told at the time that the problem was “moderate” and that he should come back for a checkup in six months.
Eight months later, in December, his doctors told him the problem had become severe and urged him to get his valve repaired immediately or risk heart failure, he said.
His doctors in Canada presented him with two options – a full or partial sternotomy, both of which would’ve required breaking bones, he said.
He said he spoke with and provided his medical information to a leading cardiac surgeon in New Jersey who is also from Newfoundland and Labrador. He advised him to seek treatment at the Mount Sinai Medical Center in Miami.
That’s where he was treated by Dr. Joseph Lamelas, a cardiac surgeon who has performed more than 8,000 open-heart surgeries.
Williams said Lamelas made an incision under his arm that didn’t require any bone breakage.
“I wanted to get in, get out fast, get back to work in a short period of time,” the premier said.
Williams said he didn’t announce his departure south of the border because he didn’t want to create “a media gong show,” but added that criticism would’ve followed him had he chose to have surgery in Canada.
“I would’ve been criticized if I had stayed in Canada and had been perceived as jumping a line or a wait list. … I accept that. That’s public life,” he said.
“(But) this is not a unique phenomenon to me. This is something that happens with lots of families throughout this country, so I make no apologies for that.”
Williams said his decision to go to the U.S. did not reflect any lack of faith in his own province’s health care system.
“I have the utmost confidence in our own health care system in Newfoundland and Labrador, but we are just over half a million people,” he said.
“We do whatever we can to provide the best possible health care that we can in Newfoundland and Labrador. The Canadian health care system has a great reputation, but this is a very specialized piece of surgery that had to be done and I went to somebody who’s doing this three or four times a day, five, six days a week.”
He quipped that he had “a heart of a 40-year-old, so that gives me 20 years new life,” and said he intends to run in the next provincial election in 2011.
“I’m probably going to be around for a long time, hopefully, if God willing,” he said.
“God forbid for the Canadian public I won’t be around longer than ever.”
Williams also said he paid for the treatment, but added he would seek any refunds he would be eligible for in Canada.
“If I’m entitled to any reimbursement from any Canadian health care system or any provincial health care system, then obviously I will apply for that as anybody else would,” he said.
“But I wrote out the cheque myself and paid for it myself and to this point, I haven’t even looked into the possibility of any reimbursement. I don’t know what I’m entitled to, if anything, and if it’s nothing, then so be it.”
He is expected back at work in early March
Creative RETALI8ION baby!
Sorry, couldn’t refrain.
Anyay, I don’t know much about healthcare in America, or Canada but in Australia it’s not great but could be worse. My friend from France says over there EVERYTHING is covered – medical, dental the lot (except like cosmetic stuff obviously). Europe knows what’s up
Very clever though you have to admit
Indeed, you DO have health care. So, lets recap the things Canada has over the U.S.
You forgot lower drinking age..
If by “having healthcare” you actually mean “waiting a median 247 days for treatment while pissing yourself every day” then sure, Canada has healthcare.
Or perhaps she meant “dying of treatable forms of cancer at approximately 2.5 times the rate of US citizens (including the uninsured)”, then sure, Canada has health care.
Maybe she meant “we have lots of people who don’t mind waiting a mean average of 23.5 hours for admittance to a hospital for emergency care”. In that case, then sure, Canada has health care.
Don’t believe it? You don’t know Canada like its hospitals and doctors do. Read the non-partisan, nonprofit report:
Yes, that’s why wealthy Canadians and their politicians go the US for care:
It appears that Canuks live significantly longer than Greengos. The same is true of Eoropean countries with nationalized healthcare. Japan, also a nation with national healthcare has the highest life expectancy.
It’s time for lunch
I’m heading to McD’s to swine size my meals
or maybe I’ll head to Long John Silvers and get one of those platters of deep fried shit disguised as fish, with the deep fried “batter-leavings” on the side
just love that good olfashioned Greengo diet.
Lucky we have the best non-invassive heart surgeons that can “roto-root” the clotted lard.
Those Canadians are actually waiting in line to see a doctor for routine care.
im Agree, even your live in other planet there’s no good health insurance until you knock down! same ways bad politician bad policies,and for some asians carying self healthy is more than $ 1 millions worthit depends on self curing with herbals than any insurrance spend off!!
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